so i looked at all the hardcore PVE guilds and..

[Ruler]

it looks like none of them are recruiting rogues? are rogues that useless in high end pve? i wouldn't know so i'm asking. just puzzled me...

- Ruler

[Kloud]

Rogues are a dime a dozen.

[Nuvas]

Yep, you really have to watch guild sites every single day for recruitment. Because they literally fill up in 24 hours. For rogues, that is.

[Khazan]

Celerity was recruiting rogues for quite a while actually.

Amazingly enough we were down to 4-5 rogues are one point in the guild. (and im not even talking active rogues, i mean 4-5 rogues on our entire roster)

We've recently recruited a bunch though and have like 5+ more applied on our forums so :/

[mexmerixe]

<3 ruler, did u come back?

[Soulstar]

saga has a couple rogue spots~

[Omusa]

It's not that Rogues are useless, it's just that there are ALOT of them.

We had 5 apply in one day, and we weren't even actively recruiting rogues.

[Blytz]

We JUST filled up a rogue spot Ruler....Would have loved to get you in. Have you seen/heard from Seris at all lately?

[chromo]

Have you seen/heard from Seris at all lately?

I had that dudes number, he lives like an hour away from me. I was going to go smoke a few blunts with him one day but that never happened =P

[balberith]

after a month or so of leveling up in instances with seris last december, he suddently disapeared.

I recall two strange occasions where he would simply go AFK unannounced, only to return 10 or 15 minutes later with excuses. Its really noticable when your doing 5 man brd or maradon/uldaman.

his strange excuses were:

yeah man, sorry i went outside to play in the snow with my friends.
and
yeah man, sorry i was petting my cat.

even stranger was that he said them on vent, and didnt sound like a 12 yr old, but is a really big stoner!

[Nams]

lol that guy is sick

[Voor]

Play a class that doesn't consist of 20% of the population.

[Rizen]

20% of the population isn't rogues. More like Hunters or Warriors now.

I've actually seen people "LFM Rogue" recently..

[Flier]

yeah rogues get shafted on this server for PvE guilds :-\

ruler if ur still into WoW PvP im positive theres a psot for u in uB, we only have 2 60 rogues and just 1 upcoming 60 so i always get bashed on about how useless i am n such.

[kayla]

20% of the population isn't rogues. More like Hunters or Warriors now.

I've actually seen people "LFM Rogue" recently..

yeh i would have to agree, most rogues have died, or rerolled war, theres way more warriors then rogues,

idk i love my rogue, but till rogues are fixed, i'll play my my next broken class a mage hehe

[kartos]

I had that dudes number, he lives like an hour away from me. I was going to go smoke a few blunts with him one day but that never happened =P

blunts are ftw, you gotta pack them up real good though so its the size of a blunt before youre done

EDIT: that doesnt make sense ,but im going to leave it

[Ruler]

We JUST filled up a rogue spot Ruler....Would have loved to get you in. Have you seen/heard from Seris at all lately?

ack! it's ok man np. i was browsing the more well known guild sites and it just seemed like there is not only a lack of interest but more like a hard NO to the class in general. i got the impression that maybe they are just useless in high-end pve and they drag rogues around to pick up the BoP leather...

about seris.. no i haven't heard anything from him in a long while. most likely longer while then it has been for you. I'll cya out there guys <3 blytz, balb, chromo <3 /victory

- Ruler

[Clearcutter]

Celerity was recruiting rogues for quite a while actually.

Amazingly enough we were down to 4-5 rogues are one point in the guild. (and im not even talking active rogues, i mean 4-5 rogues on our entire roster)

We've recently recruited a bunch though and have like 5+ more applied on our forums so :/

Too bad the corrupt officers base their opinions on falsified information. Just a note!

[chromo]

Too bad the corrupt officers base their opinions on falsified information. Just a note!

A cheap shot from the rogue!?

I <3 Clearcutter

[Rombus]

Only the cool Rogues still play Rogues. Yep, cool Rogues and chinese farmers!

[tohkin]

^ Worst rogue on teh server imo

[Steg]

^ Worst rogue on teh server imo

agreed

[Bronnieman]

20% of the population isn't rogues. More like Hunters or Warriors now.

I've actually seen people "LFM Rogue" recently..

Someone call the whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamblance

[Azure]

^ Worst rogue on teh server imo
It's true.

[Kurisu]

Only the cool Rogues still play Rogues. Yep, cool Rogues and chinese farmers!


what you talking bout Nuvian doesnt still play!

[Redd]

Too bad the corrupt officers base their opinions on falsified information. Just a note!


No need for you to be Butthurt man.


Besides, you pulling Xteam with some Alliance way back at the start of the game to kill someone just kickin it in Orgrimmar pretty much showed your character.

[Clearcutter]

No need for you to be Butthurt man.

What if you were denied a job because you were accused of being homosexual, even though you knew that you weren't? Same concept.



Besides, you pulling Xteam with some Alliance way back at the start of the game to kill someone just kickin it in Orgrimmar pretty much showed your character.

So I happen to know an alliance player better than some random hordie? The graveyard was 3 feet away, it's not like he had to work for it. He didn't even have any "special buffs" going at the time either.

If someone can't handle dying on a PvP server, the PvE one is that way --->

Btw, this was like 2-3 months ago, after the graveyard was put outside Org. Also, who doesn't x-team?

[Fallah]

Wait people actually play rogues? I thought all rogues did was ask "250 bred = 25s plz thnx~!"

[Stingray]

ack! it's ok man np. i was browsing the more well known guild sites and it just seemed like there is not only a lack of interest but more like a hard NO to the class in general. i got the impression that maybe they are just useless in high-end pve and they drag rogues around to pick up the BoP leather...

Not true at all, rogues are absolutely essential for PvE. There's just a ton to choose from, which means guilds can be picky and only take the most committed ones, which in turn means the ones in guilds already aren't going anywhere anytime soon...

[Rizen]

Not true at all, rogues are absolutely essential for PvE. There's just a ton to choose from, which means guilds can be picky and only take the most committed ones, which in turn means the ones in guilds already aren't going anywhere anytime soon...You should replace some of the rogues in your guild with Ruler because if they are as skilled at PVE as they are at PVP...

ouch.

<3 Loffina though.

[Opifex]

I leveled my rogue to 60, saw the low chance of me getting in a pve guild, and rerolled priest.
Invictus was looking for rogues about a month ago =\

[Clearcutter]

Not true at all, rogues are absolutely essential for PvE. There's just a ton to choose from, which means guilds can be picky and only take the most committed ones, which in turn means the ones in guilds already aren't going anywhere anytime soon...

I wish that was true. You have no idea how many half-assing rogues I've seen get into guilds who serve no purpose but to grind away mobs in PvE, get DKP, get their loot, and quit the game because there isn't anything to do.

Last I checked I was still here..


I leveled my rogue to 60, saw the low chance of me getting in a pve guild, and rerolled priest.
Invictus was looking for rogues about a month ago =\

I applied a few months ago =\

[Stanos]

The amount of bad rogues with loot can astound you sometimes.

[Clearcutter]

The amount of bad rogues with loot can astound you sometimes.

I see a new one every day =\

[Stingray]

I wish that was true. You have no idea how many half-assing rogues I've seen get into guilds who serve no purpose but to grind away mobs in PvE, get DKP, get their loot, and quit the game because there isn't anything to do.

In the six or so months our guild has existed, we've had a total of 10 rogues on the roster. 1 of them dropped out for inactivity a while back due to serious RL problems (including some jail time served), when he did get back he wanted to re-join but we were full at that point. No rogue we've had has ever quit the game. The remaining 9 show up to 80-100% of raids, depending on the person...

[Clearcutter]

In the six or so months our guild has existed, we've had a total of 10 rogues on the roster. 1 of them dropped out for inactivity a while back due to serious RL problems (including some jail time served), when he did get back he wanted to re-join but we were full at that point. No rogue we've had has ever quit the game. The remaining 9 show up to 80-100% of raids, depending on the person...

I've heard stories.. =)

[Stanos]

No trust me, every angry rogue I see that doesn't get the jump on me besides Loffina is like "FREE KILL" stapled on thier head. Hell, even when they get the jump they might not live. The only reason a few of them have lived is because of bloodfang gloves

[Osi]

i owned rizens face when he tried to take my farm in a AB. back up out my farm! NI HAO! MY FARM! NI HAO! god bless china and farmer gold.

[Rizen]

Osi I think less alcohol is in order this evening.

[Clearcutter]

Osi I think less alcohol is in order this evening.

And forever.

[crafty]

No trust me, every angry rogue I see that doesn't get the jump on me besides Loffina is like "FREE KILL" stapled on thier head. Hell, even when they get the jump they might not live. The only reason a few of them have lived is because of bloodfang gloves

I helped Loffina get his Barman's. True story.

Now to think that his gear is 100 times better than my rogue makes me sad.

[Flier]

In the six or so months our guild has existed, we've had a total of 10 rogues on the roster. 1 of them dropped out for inactivity a while back due to serious RL problems (including some jail time served), when he did get back he wanted to re-join but we were full at that point. No rogue we've had has ever quit the game. The remaining 9 show up to 80-100% of raids, depending on the person...

hehe count me and thats 11 ^_~ oh the good times in MC with angry/backrage with tour guide splug and damg fights vs apollyon fun stuff.

i took advantage of angry when it started , feel bad about it tho.

[Clearcutter]

hehe count me and thats 11 ^_~ oh the good times in MC with angry/backrage with tour guide splug and damg fights vs apollyon fun stuff.

i took advantage of angry when it started , feel bad about it tho.


Add about 7 more from GGW list.

[StormCrow]

no offense clearcutter, but maybe the reason people deny your apps and don't want you to join is because you act like a total jacktard on the forums?

you make Janos look like mother theresa half the time.

not trying to hurt your feelings or nothing here, but people don't recruit people just because they need X class, they recruit 1. Good players, 2. Decent people (aka not total jacktards), and 3. Not rogues.

reroll as a druid/priest/warlock, stop being a forum troll, and then apply for some guilds.

i'd bet you get a lot more trial invites.

(public service announcement: these opinions do not reflect the opinions of Blood Legion or any Blood Legion affiliates and are soley the opinions of Stormcrow, and his opinion matters)

[mexmerixe]

(public service announcement: these opinions do not reflect the opinions of Blood Legion or any Blood Legion affiliates and are soley the opinions of Stormcrow, and his opinion matters)


lol <3 SC, ah yes the good ol' days in BL w/ you, I miss them greatly

[StormCrow]

<3 mex

[Clearcutter]

no offense clearcutter, but maybe the reason people deny your apps and don't want you to join is because you act like a total jacktard on the forums?

you make Janos look like mother theresa half the time.

not trying to hurt your feelings or nothing here, but people don't recruit people just because they need X class, they recruit 1. Good players, 2. Decent people (aka not total jacktards), and 3. Not rogues.

I'm sorry, but you're about 4-5 months too slow. I tell it like it is. If people can't handle the truth, they need to go cry to their mommies because the internet is not for them.



reroll as a druid/priest/warlock, stop being a forum troll, and then apply for some guilds.

i'd bet you get a lot more trial invites.

(public service announcement: these opinions do not reflect the opinions of Blood Legion or any Blood Legion affiliates and are soley the opinions of Stormcrow, and his opinion matters)

I've stated this about 500 different times altogether, I am NOT a support class, i.e. healer, nor am I a ranged caster. I like to get right in the middle and tear shit up, which is why I went from a Rogue to Warrior in PvP. Button mash for life.

The fact that you think I still troll forums is ludicrous. All you're doing is following a crappy generalization that the retards of this server have given me. Will you always believe what the real forum trolls say about someone? Will you always believe what they say over the actual truth? If you were to actually look at every one of my posts on any forums in the past 6 months, you wouldn't really find much of a "trolling" attempt, just witty/sharp comments that somebody might take offense to.

Forum troll number one comes along and sees this. "Hey, I guess I'll do my job here and spread this crap. To IRC, AWAAAAYYY!"

All I can offer to you is 2/10 for effort. I value other's opinions about me, and when I hear that it's misconstrued lies about me, I get on the offensive. To tell you the truth, the only guild I've been denied from based on these accusations was Celerity, and already I've had people telling me how corrupt their officer base is.

They were willing to listen to the vast majority of idiots on the server. The question here is, are you going to continue to do the same?

[Ligma]

No, you really are just a douche.

[Clearcutter]

No, you really are just a douche.

See, StormCrow?

[Kloud]

Storm has a good point. If Rombus was applying to Team Ice, we'd never take him! haha

[Donzia]

The biggest selling point for rogues is how much gear we have already gotten.

[Man0warr]

Why do you think Rombus decided to lead? he told me thats the only way he could play a rogue in a high end guild! Just like Rangers in EQ for the first 4 years, every guild leader was a ranger.

You can never kick him no matter how useless his class is!

[StormCrow]

CC, i don't care that everything you say is the truth and you don't hold back, fine, big fucking deal.

the real TRUTH is unless you stop acting like an assbag (like you always act)

and show some common decency instead of throwing everything out of proportion people just MIGHT want to recruit you.

currently nobody wants you, and really i don'tgive a goddamn whether or not your too ADHD to play anything but a rogue, heres the deal people DO NOT need rogues, as they are by far the most overpopulated class at the moment, and not to knock rogues, but good rogues are not exactly difficult to find.

that is ofcourse if you think you're good, i really don't i think your either subpar or just average.

now lets see

1. your a rogue
2. your not even a good rogue, nor are you extremely well geared, you might be average skilled.
3. nobody likes you because you make everyone around you look like morons too.
seriously no good endgame guild would recruit you because the shit you spew forth does nothing but make the rest of the guild look just as bad as you (if not worse for recruiting someone like that)
4. The truth means nothing if it comes across as standard asshattery that a typical forum troll would spew.

any smart guild wouldnt touch you with a stick because your liable to bring any guilds reputation down and make them all look like fucktards.

its obviously the truth too, you can't act like a decent human being and make a real argument or just admit that maybe people don't like overzealous jacktards.

really, i'm done helping you figure out why nobody wants to recruit you. maybe your meant to stay unguilded or in a random guild of lowbies or other such societal outcasts.

(these opinions expressed herein are soley the opinions of Stormcrow and not of Blood Legion or Blood Legion affiliates).

[Ligma]

heres the deal people DO NOT need rogues, as they are by far the most overpopulated class at the moment, and not to knock rogues, but good rogues are not exactly difficult to find.

Well your post is mostly true except for that. Hunters and warriors are right up there with rogues on most servers, if not exceeding. As well, if you combine shaman and paladin since they're restricted to one side only I believe that makes up a pretty big chunk of the population.

I will say though, that if and when I really have the time or inclination to get into a good PVE guild I would stop being a forum retard. I don't think that is a very difficult concept. I have gear and skills, but you don't exactly see people throwing invites to good guilds at me whenever I log on. Simple math imo! Clearcutter, get your head out of your ass. It may not be "fair," but stormcrow is mostly right.

[Clearcutter]

Lets see, where to start..


CC, i don't care that everything you say is the truth and you don't hold back, fine, big fucking deal.

the real TRUTH is unless you stop acting like an assbag (like you always act) and show some common decency instead of throwing everything out of proportion people just MIGHT want to recruit you.

What's your basis for this? Can you honestly convince a random person who doesn't know me that what you say is true, by providing truthful facts?

No evidence #1



currently nobody wants you, and really i don'tgive a goddamn whether or not your too ADHD to play anything but a rogue, heres the deal people DO NOT need rogues, as they are by far the most overpopulated class at the moment, and not to knock rogues, but good rogues are not exactly difficult to find.

You misunderstood. I don't play other classes because I'm "too ADHD," I play what classes I think are fun and enjoyable. I have actually played every other class to certain levels and every single one has been too horribly boring, with the exception of a rogue, warrior, and mage. I could see myself having a 60 mage one day.



that is ofcourse if you think you're good, i really don't i think your either subpar or just average.

now lets see

1. your a rogue
2. your not even a good rogue, nor are you extremely well geared, you might be average skilled.


Big words coming from someone who's never even raided with me in game. How you can honestly come up with that is beyond me. That's like saying, "2 + 2 = 5 because I believe it to be so." Can you prove that truthful? No.

As for my gear, what do you expect a rogue with no guild to do, solo MC? I know people think we're overpowered, but nobody can do that. Epics don't just fall from the sky. Luck would have it, I ran MC for 3 straight months missing only 2 raids due to personal issues and got one item. But it's not about the loot here, is it?

No evidence #2



3. nobody likes you because you make everyone around you look like morons too.
seriously no good endgame guild would recruit you because the shit you spew forth does nothing but make the rest of the guild look just as bad as you (if not worse for recruiting someone like that)

4. The truth means nothing if it comes across as standard asshattery that a typical forum troll would spew.

What would this "shit" be? What is so horrible that I spew forth? Why don't you try providing some evidence to uphold your base-less accusations.

No evidence #3



any smart guild wouldnt touch you with a stick because your liable to bring any guilds reputation down and make them all look like fucktards.

its obviously the truth too, you can't act like a decent human being and make a real argument or just admit that maybe people don't like overzealous jacktards.

really, i'm done helping you figure out why nobody wants to recruit you. maybe your meant to stay unguilded or in a random guild of lowbies or other such societal outcasts.

(these opinions expressed herein are soley the opinions of Stormcrow and not of Blood Legion or Blood Legion affiliates).

No evidence #4
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Am I not the only person who sees the irony in this post? You say I cannot act like a decent human being, that whatever comes out of my mouth is vile horseshit. Now, go back and read everything you said. A "decent human being" wouldn't go to such extremes to try and get their point across such as how you did it. Logic would say you are not a decent human being then.

Honestly, putting in that little note at the bottom of each post doesn't help much. The fact of the matter remains, you are more of the forum troll here, and I can't understand why such a respectable guild such as Blood Legion would recruit a person like you. Yeah it's all fun and games when you throw it around jokingly between members, but when you talk big like this to somebody you don't even know, you'd better be able to back yourself up.

As of now your accusations mean nothing to me. Four little rants you have with no evidence to back it up. If you can't provide any evidence to back up your statement, don't expect anybody to take you seriously.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&hs=Phz&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&oi=defmore&defl=en&q=define:evidence

[Ligma]

Am I not the only person who sees the irony in this post? You say I cannot act like a decent human being, that whatever comes out of my mouth is vile horseshit. Now, go back and read everything you said. A "decent human being" wouldn't go to such extremes to try and get their point across such as how you did it. Logic would say you are not a decent human being then

Actually, logic would say it is a fallacy to attack a person instead of their argument by claiming they're hypocritical, a.k.a. argumentum ad hominem tu quoque. Thanks for playing.

Here is the evidence you were looking for: http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=353451&poll_id=0&category_id=20&warned=y

[Alhazred]

I think StormCrow is a bit too harsh on you Clearcutter, but that's just my opinion. He does point out something key for you, and that is you can never escape subjective perception and judgement. For me, you would have had to say something offensive directly to me or one of my friends for me to really have a strong opinion of you. Many people will judge a person much quicker who is vocal and opinionated. Your past actions and words may stick around for quite a long time as well. Asking for evidence is silly, because you can't prove/argue perceptions.

Here's a comparison for you:

An attractive high school girl should have no problems getting a prom date even if she is bitchy and demanding. Chances are she will even get several invitations. Many men will put up with her shit for years, until they find something better or pull their head out of their ass.

The not so attractive girl, would need to be respectful, kind and fun to have a good chance at getting a date. Or at the very least, she better put out. Not many men are going to ask a girl who is argumentative and vocal if she isn't hot, and isn't an easy lay.


So, if you really want to get a date you should think about changing your image, or start sucking off the right people :P

[Clearcutter]

I think StormCrow is a bit too harsh on you Clearcutter, but that's just my opinion. He does point out something key for you, and that is you can never escape subjective perception and judgement. For me, you would have had to say something offensive directly to me or one of my friends for me to really have a strong opinion of you. Many people will judge a person much quicker who is vocal and opinionated. Your past actions and words may stick around for quite a long time as well. Asking for evidence is silly, because you can't prove/argue perceptions.

Here's a comparison for you:

An attractive high school girl should have no problems getting a prom date even if she is bitchy and demanding. Chances are she will even get several invitations. Many men will put up with her shit for years, until they find something better or pull their head out of their ass.

The not so attractive girl, would need to be respectful, kind and fun to have a good chance at getting a date. Or at the very least, she better put out. Not many men are going to ask a girl who is argumentative and vocal if she isn't hot, and isn't an easy lay.


So, if you really want to get a date you should think about changing your image, or start sucking off the right people :P

I'm nothing like I was 6+ months ago. People fail to realize this, and are stuck in the past.

And nobody should judge a person by what they say on IRC. IRC is there to blow steam when you need to.

[StormCrow]

if you still can't see perception is everything then you'll never progress.

it doesn't matter what the truth is if everyone still views you as a board warrior.

EDIT on the irc part.

people DO judge people by how they act out of game, because its VERY possible thats how they'll act ingame.

i don't want to be on teamspeak with someone i can't even stand to talk to on IRC.

[Clearcutter]

if you still can't see perception is everything then you'll never progress.

it doesn't matter what the truth is if everyone still views you as a board warrior.

EDIT on the irc part.

people DO judge people by how they act out of game, because its VERY possible thats how they'll act ingame.

i don't want to be on teamspeak with someone i can't even stand to talk to on IRC.

So you're basically saying everybody is prejudice? I'm glad the bad habits of real life come into the virtual world of gaming. But I can assure you I don't go around in game cursing like I've got Tourrets Syndrome. I just like to have fun and get things done. Problem is people don't even give me a chance to prove myself. If I do even one thing "slightly" troubling, it's blown way out of proportion and the basis for why I shouldn't be there.

It's real troubling to have to go through this for half a year. If you were in my shoes for even 5 minutes you'd realize why I try to defend myself so much, instead of letting it all go to hell like other people do.

[Stanos]

Why do you think Rombus decided to lead? he told me thats the only way he could play a rogue in a high end guild! Just like Rangers in EQ for the first 4 years, every guild leader was a ranger.

You can never kick him no matter how useless his class is!

Ain't that the truth ;/

[StormCrow]

i'm sorry that people are predjudiced against you, but really, isn't it partly your fault?

i think many people would begin to accept you if you chilled out a bit, maybe apologize for your "old" behavior and try to make a few more friends.

i'm sure plenty of guilds would give you the time of day if they knew you weren't going to cause them all stress.

just a suggestion.

perception IS everything, whether it should be or not.

[Clearcutter]

i'm sorry that people are predjudiced against you, but really, isn't it partly your fault?

i think many people would begin to accept you if you chilled out a bit, maybe apologize for your "old" behavior and try to make a few more friends.

i'm sure plenty of guilds would give you the time of day if they knew you weren't going to cause them all stress.

just a suggestion.

perception IS everything, whether it should be or not.

That's the problem. I have apologized for whatever I've done in the past. I have chilled out A LOT from what I used to act like after GGW fell apart. The problem is people still have the attitude and mentality that you carry right now. Judging by some of your other posts in this thread, you'd be ready to cut me limb from limb just for who I am, but the basis for every hate you have against me is horribly blown out of proportion.

Perception is everything, but yours is horribly messed up.

[Fleshplague]

Sadly, its not any better for Warlocks either

[StormCrow]

truthfully i think your an alright guy, but its not me you should be trying to impress

it should be the guilds you want to join. (if one of them is BL well maybe ya should try to impress me, but thats a whole nother bribe....er story)

[Clearcutter]

truthfully i think your an alright guy, but its not me you should be trying to impress

it should be the guilds you want to join. (if one of them is BL well maybe ya should try to impress me, but thats a whole nother bribe....er story)

Then why all the hatred before? No <3? :(

Apped to BL looooooooooooong time ago. You guys don't like rogues though =o

[StormCrow]

i'm just used to dealing with people who don't understand anything that isn't yelled at them, no hate.

[Clearcutter]

http://wiki.ehow.com/Deal-With-Impossible-People

I don't fit that description, unlike many others on this server. Live and let live I guess =\

[farva]

stormcrow you suck kthx

[StormCrow]

farvs one of those people that needs to be yelled at to get your point across

FARV DON'T FORGET TO PUT ON YOUR HELMET BEFORE YOU GET ON THE BUS!!!!!!!

[farva]

arrested development sings a song about tennessee

[StormCrow]

never heard it also. tennessee > kansas

(isnt that where your from? also did you ever meet up with shakah and duel irl?)

[Donzia]

Too bad the corrupt officers base their opinions on falsified information. Just a note!

zing, quoted for truth and emphasis

gotta be the worst officers in WoW.

[Donzia]

In the six or so months our guild has existed, we've had a total of 10 rogues on the roster. 1 of them dropped out for inactivity a while back due to serious RL problems (including some jail time served), when he did get back he wanted to re-join but we were full at that point. No rogue we've had has ever quit the game. The remaining 9 show up to 80-100% of raids, depending on the person...


they quit, Exile had plenty rogues take my gear and then quit the game. Once your rogues get sick of MC or BWL every night, they'll probably quit too.

[Donzia]

No need for you to be Butthurt man.


Besides, you pulling Xteam with some Alliance way back at the start of the game to kill someone just kickin it in Orgrimmar pretty much showed your character.

LOL you got a lot of nerve to even reply here when you know i'll eventually read and set the facts straight.

First of all Celerity members X-Team more than anyone else in the game, less now that pitsa and boo arent in the guild, but they still do it constantly. You can ask eskobar about celerity's picking tubers with farva on vent.

Thats just one small example.

I have no doubts that someone in the guild might have been mad about being x teamed by clearcutter, after all that is the motto of most of you officers, to be dicks and to hold grudges forever.

I remember when Lidirt complained endlessly about Mayre getting into exile, way back from him leaving a scholomance group on Maeyre. And of course the drama about liditrt hating / not allowing mayre into celerity after the break. Thats also good stuff.

I saw use start drama in raid chat with bladen. use is an officer.

I saw you start drama with mayre and other people in public chat, you are an officer.

I've seen lidirt verbally attack myself, severed, bladen, etc in public chat whenever he wanted, he is an officer.

Phaith knew how to run a guild - he quit before writting you noobs the "guilds for dummies" book

Caruu doesnt openly start drama with anyone. Then again he is too nice to solve problems be decisive or correct the other officers when they make mistakes (which is often to be put lightly)

[Voor]

Did that really need 3 different responses?

[Mazz]

Did that really need 3 different responses?

SHUT THE FUCK UP FAT MAN! THIS AIN'T NONE OF YOUR GOD DAMN BUSINESS!

Random 1994 quote of the day.

[Donzia]

Did that really need 3 different responses?


Three different quoted posts three different responses.

[Rajuk]

Heh, the only people from Celerity that have replied to anything I have said have been Caruu and Maleficent(which is mainly b/c he and I were guilded prior to both of us being in Exile), not that I really care that much.